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March 2005

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DO WE HAVE YOUR CORRECT EMAIL ADDRESS?

I have just sent out a Notice re the Parade to 1,011 names registered in the Members' Lists. Of these, so far, in excess of 250 have been returned as non-deliverable. Please can everyone check that their email addresses are up-to-date and correct on the website. If not please email the Webmaster <webmaster@hmsgangesassoc.org> who will happily amend them for you.

Tony Thipthorpe <thipthorpe@btconnect.com>
Chairman
HMS Ganges Association
01March2005


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OVERVIEW UPDATE No.1

HMS GANGES CENTENARY PARADE

IPSWICH WATERFRONT

Saturday, 23 APRIL 2005


Important information for “Day Trippers”


The Centenary Parade will commence at 12 noon and those taking part in the parade must be in place by 1130. Following the parade the Association will be holding a reception for our invited guests. Admission to the reception will be by ticket.

The cost of catering for the reception is being funded from various sources including members attending reunion, who will have paid an inclusive fee with their reunion booking. The reception will be open to all members of the Association but those members who are not attending reunion will need to contact the Association so that numbers can be recorded for catering purposes. The cost of the reception, for these “Day Trippers,” will be £5 per head which will include a finger buffet lunch, red or white wine, or a soft drink. There will also be a cash bar for those wanting beer.

If any members of the Association, NOT attending reunion, wish to attend the reception, with or without guests, would they please contact Jim Gitsham on

01473 328660


AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE BUT IN ANY EVENT BEFORE 3 APRIL.


DVD Recording


A DVD is being commissioned to record as much as possible of the Parade, the Reception and interviews with Members. It is envisaged that the DVD will be made available between 3 to 4 weeks after the event at a cost of £10 each. Copies will be made available for sale through the Museum and by direct mail from the Chairman. When mailed to UK addresses an additional £1.50 per disk, postage and packing, will be required. P&P costs for other addresses will be calculated at the time. Similarly, the price of video tapes will be calculated when numbers are known.

It would be very helpful if an indication could be given as to the number of disks/tapes required. Obviously, small quantities will cost more to produce than larger batches. Please contact me by: telephone (01702) 341968,  fax (01702) 432440 or, preferably, by email  thipthorpe@btconnect.com to give an indication of future orders. These indications will not be binding but will help us in assessing the likely demand for disks & tapes.

Finally, could I ask Members who receive this Update direct by email, or read it on the Noticeboard, to pass on the information to those Members who are not connected to the Internet or who may not have seen it. It is very important for the “Day Trippers” to contact Jim Gitsham as early as possible.


Tony Thipthorpe

Chairman, HMS Ganges Association




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Crossed The Bar

Oswald Arthur Gregory C/JX 301244, died on 5 Feb 05, aged 82. He joined HMS Ganges on 15 Sep '41 (not 22 Sep '41 as stated in membership list) and was trained there until 20 Nov '41 before being drafted to HMS Pembroke to join minesweepers. He served until 8 July '46 leaving the Navy as a Leading Seaman when he was discharged to the Reserve Fleet until 1956. His ashes are to be scattered, at his request, in Scotland where he met his wife during the war. His daughter has asked in a Notice prepared for relatives, friends and the local newspaper that donations be made to HMS Ganges and I have suggested that these go to the Museum c/o David Layte (address etc.) as Chairman of Trustees. I said I would pass on her message to all concerned and invite the Webmaster to put an entry on the website and the Editor of the Gazette to include his details in the Summer Gazette. She would like to have a copy of the Gazette with his details in the CTB section, sent to her please. I also told her that a Remembrance Book was in the course of being compiled but would take some time as we had to go back to the founding of the Association in 1981 to collect all the names.
Tony Thipthorpe <thipthorpe@btconnect.com>
Chairman
HMS Ganges Association
02Mar2005


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Crossed The Bar

I have recently discovered that one of our shipmates R.O. John Smith O/N unknown Crossed The Bar 26/8/2004 after a long illness. Although not a member of the association I believe he was at Ganges between 1963 - 1965. Hopefully he has found safe anchorage
Regards Aye
Wally Workman <bob@workman575.fsnet.co.uk>
03Mar2005


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Crossed The Bar

It is with great sadness I would like to inform you that my beloved husband Steve died on Monday Feb 28th. Aged just 57.
He had been ill for a while but this was unexpected. He joined up at HMS Ganges in 1963 and served until November 1988. He was an association member. His funeral will be on Wed March 9 at 1.30pm
St Edmunds Church Marks Tey Rd Stubbington Hants
All are welcome.
Lin Gell <lmgell@aol.com>
05Mar2005


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Duncan 11/12 Classes - 8th Feb - 1965

Can anyone tell me where I can obtain a class list from?
My class was Duncan 11/12, 8th Feb 1965.
Like to get one before memory goes!
Regards
Peter Wilson <peter.wilson54@btinternet.com>
06Mar2005


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Crossed The Bar

Cyril Philip Packham at Ganges January 1949
Off No P/SSX 864706
Rate L/SEA
CTB 25/02/05
His funeral is at St Faiths crematorium Norwich, on 9th March 05 at 1615.
Regards
Steve Packham <SPackham@clpenvirogas.com>
08Mar2005


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Leslie Duckworth C/JX408087

Dear Sirs,
I wonder if you can help me. I am trying to find any information on my father in law Leslie Duckworth who served at HMS Ganges in 1943. I found a photograph on your site and thought I'd spotted him but it's the 34 mess photo from 1943 but when I checked all the signatures he wasn't there. Would there have been other messes!
Unfortunately he passed away in 1992, my mother in law has his linen papers but I can't find anything on the internet about him. His number was C/JX408087 and his date of birth was 19th December 1924. I'd really appreciate any help you might be able to give me, it would make my husbands family's year to see something about him in the Navy.
Many thanks for any help you could give me
Regards
Kim Duckworth <KimD@TangentSales.co.uk>
09Mar2005


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Crossed The Bar

It is with great sadness we have to say farewell to Bernie Smith, CJX166832 PO Cxn late of Goole Yorks recently having moved to Cardiff.
Bernie CTB on 06/03/05, his funeral will take place at St Marks Church, Cardiff at 1515 followed at 1615 with cremation at Cardiff Crematorium on Monday March 14th
Regards
Dickie <mail@sloproom.co.uk>
10Mar2005


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Crossed The Bar

It is with deep regret I have to inform you of the death of a very dear friend. Russel Blakey, Ganges 1960/61, Blake Division sparker passed away with a massive heart attack three days after his 60th birthday: March 10 2005. Russ originated from Lincolnshire, did time in submarines and Hampshire police force. He lived in Southsea, close to Fratton Park. His funeral is on Thursday 24 March 2005. He leaves a widow, Sally and three grown up children.
Rest in peace mate.
Slinger Wood. <johnrhodiewood@aol.com>
P/056160 - Ganges 1960/61 Keppel 232.


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Nozzers of 1955

To all the the members that entered the Annexe of HMS Ganges 50 years ago today (15.03.55) I send my very best wishes. I have always believed that my Ganges training was the finest finishing school in the world and set me up to face anything that life could offer. I sincerely hope that you have all shared the same experience.
I am raising my glass and having a tot "To absent friends" and thinking of you all today. Cheers!!!
Tony Richards <Ttotorich@aol.com>
P/J948882.(Western Australia)
16Mar2005


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Charles Wells Funeral Portchester 04 Feb 05
Mike Hallet Funeral Eltham 15 Feb 05
Solent Division Annual Church Service Portsea 27 Feb 05
26th Destroyer Association Final Parade Southsea Naval Memorial 05 Mar 05
Reunion Weekend + Centennial Parade Ipswich 22 - 25 Apr
Suez Canal & Middle East Veterans Association
(Berkshire, Surrey & Hampshire).
Standard Dedication ? 22 May 05
Weymouth & Portland Veterans Parade ? 05 Jun 05
May be a Submarine remembrance Parade about this time
Battle of Trafalgar Bicentennial Anniversary Parade Southsea Common 29 Jun 05
World War II Anniversary Commemoration London 10 Jul 05
HMS Ganges Remembrance Weekend Mylor 11 - 13 Nov 05

Tony Higgins <TONY.HIGGINS2@VIRGIN.NET>
Standard Bearer
HMS Ganges Association
19Mar2005


PINGAT JASA MALAYSIA MEDAL
<http://www.nmbva.co.uk/Express%20article.htm>

Malaya Medal Dear Webmaster
Many association members who served in the Malaya - Borneo confrontation may be interested to know that the Malaysian Government have recently offered British and Commonwealth veterans involved from 1957-66 a new medal called the PJM medal. Ships which many association members may have served can be found on this website: <http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Borneo/units.html> The OZ & NZ governments have accepted the medal, see <http://www.navalassoc.org.au/Navy_Defence%20%20News%20Malaysian%20Medal26%20Nov04.htm> and <http://www.aumarire.co.nz/navy/frankspage.html>
Unfortunately the British government rejected it, and two articles in the Daily Express have already voiced an opinion on this. All can be read in the MEDALS section at this website: <http://www.nmbva.co.uk/>
George Fleming <george9.fleming@ntlworld.com>
HMS Ganges Association Member.

21Mar2005


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Crossed The Bar

Arthur (Nobby) Hall from Chandlers Ford, Eastleigh, ex PO Photographer
Rodney 22 Class, 14 Mess Joined Gangees 01/01/34. Sadly Nobby CTB 20/03/05.
Details of arrangements will be made available as soon they are to hand.
Dickie Doyle <mail@sloproom.co.uk>
21Mar2005


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Crossed The Bar

Duncan McEntevy lived in Scarborough ex RS.
Ganges 09 /09/1961 Hawke 286 Class, 44 Recruitment.
Sadly Duncan CTB on 19/03/05. No arrangements have been notified as yet.
Dickie Doyle <mail@sloproom.co.uk>
21Mar2005


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PJM Medal

PJM Medal I must agree with George Fleming's remarks regarding the PJM Medal being awarded by the Malaysian Government.
There would be many members of our organisation who would be eligible for this medal through service during the Indonesian confrontation and I feel it would be appropriate for our organisation to support the lobbying efforts being made by other organisations.
In contrast the Australian Defence Department is facilitating the awarding of this medal even though it is not an official Australian decoration.
This reflects very much the difference in attitudes towards ex servicemen between the two countries.
Australians are proud of their ex sevicemen and the contribution they have made in numerous campaigns, which can be so clearly seen on Anzac day.
Commonwealth veterans can also receive a service pension at age 60 if they meet the criteria of having faced hostilities and meet residential requirements.
So why is the UK government so reticent about this generous offer by the Malaysians, what are the politics of it? or is it just another denial by the current Labour (Christian Democrat) government of our history and contribution by many who did their duty.
As an organisation let us ask the questions.
Ivor Rich (60) <ivorij44@powerup.com.au>
24Mar2005


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Norman Millen

Norman Millen Hi! Shipmates,
A request from Canada.
I am an ex St Vincent "boy" so I hope you don't hold that against me and can help. My younger brother Norman Millen was only in the RN for six months, the entire time of which was at HMS Ganges before he got himself booted out, a stupid thing to do and which now in latter years he bitterly regrets. He cannot remember his class, any of his class mates and has no pictures except the one I attach. I figure he would have been in HMS Ganges late 1961, early '62, if any of your members recognize him and can supply any stories, pictures, class number etc it would be much appreciated.
Incidentally I do my bit to help the local Ganges Division here by advertising their present in Canada and on the pages there are links to other chapters and to the HMS Ganges Association main site at <http://www.candoo.com/ncot/nuganges.htm>
Many thanks for any assistance.

Norrie Millen <alwaysnavy@candoo.com>
Vice Chairman & Webmaster
Royal Naval Association - Southern Ontario
<http://www.candoo.com/ncot/rna-sob.html>
Webmaster & Immediate Past President
Naval Club of Toronto
<http://www.candoo.com/ncot/>

26Mar2005


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Adult Learning Inspectorate's Report
<http://www.ali.gov.uk/htm/about_mod.htm>

Hi Clive,
I thought that it might be of interest to members, that the Adult Learning Inspectorate's Report 'Safer training: Managing risks to the welfare of recruits in the British armed services' recently reported in the press, is available online, both in summary and the complete report itself. Members interested in seeing what belated attempts are being made to tackle mistreatment of recruits will find this report interesting. Overall, basic training at HMS Raleigh gets a good report (see pp56+57).
Those without internet access or who wish to obtain a hard copy of the publication, can do so by contacting The Stationery Office, where the Report is available at a cost of £15.
telephone: 0870 600 55 22
email: <book.orders@tso.co.uk>
website: <http://www.tso.co.uk >
Regards aye,
Steve Hammett <HammettSR@parliament.uk>
29Mar2005


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